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2019-09-30

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Kirstin Slevin01:09:41

How do you see project or product managers fitting in to the four team topologies?

KurtA12:09:01

Chapter 5 mentions that "platform teams" should exhibit a fractal replication of the 4 overarching typologies. This seems to be one of the bigger pain points that I've seen, because often the platform team is created by cleaving off the engineers, but the much smaller headcount roles (such as PM/UX people) end up left behind in the customer-facing teams and the platform suffers "design by engineer" rather than user-centric design. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Especially when you talk in chapter 6 about software cleavage planes? The imbalance of roles makes it very difficult to split without leaving one side underserved.

KurtA12:09:01

Chapter 5 mentions that "platform teams" should exhibit a fractal replication of the 4 overarching typologies. This seems to be one of the bigger pain points that I've seen, because often the platform team is created by cleaving off the engineers, but the much smaller headcount roles (such as PM/UX people) end up left behind in the customer-facing teams and the platform suffers "design by engineer" rather than user-centric design. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Especially when you talk in chapter 6 about software cleavage planes? The imbalance of roles makes it very difficult to split without leaving one side underserved.

Alex (IT Rev)14:09:18

<!channel> The AMA with Matthew and Manuel will be starting in 30 minutes. They'll be answering questions directing here in the #ama_team_topologies channel.

Tom Hall14:09:51

Where does an on-call support responsibility fit into the TT model?

Tom Hall14:09:20

Is an enablement team typically comprised of staff borrowed from platform or stream teams?

Alex (IT Rev)15:09:31

FYI the AMA has kicked off. They'll be working through the questions above and answering.

Matthew Skelton - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:35

Looking back over the channel, I think the first question since the last AMA is this one: https://itrevbookclub.slack.com/archives/CN8QF28C8/p1569373128152400

Matthew Skelton - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:35

Looking back over the channel, I think the first question since the last AMA is this one: https://itrevbookclub.slack.com/archives/CN8QF28C8/p1569373128152400

Manuel Pais - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:57

This was the next question, from @watling

Manuel Pais - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:57

This was the next question, from @watling

Manuel Pais - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:18

This one already had some great discussion going on!

Manuel Pais - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:18

This one already had some great discussion going on!

Manuel Pais - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:02

Next question from @anderson.kirstinm :

Manuel Pais - co-author of Team Topologies15:09:02

Next question from @anderson.kirstinm :

Alex (IT Rev)16:09:41

<!here> Great job @matthew and @manuel.pais!!!! Thank you! 🙏

Tom Hall16:09:33

Thanks a lot @matthew and @manuel.pais!