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Roman Pickl08:01:17

In beyond the Phoenix project there is a discussion (I think it is in chapter 3) on how bottlenecks tend to shift after improvements and what to do about it (E.g. from getting environments to deployment, etc). Is there more info about this somewhere?

Roman Pickl08:01:17

In beyond the Phoenix project there is a discussion (I think it is in chapter 3) on how bottlenecks tend to shift after improvements and what to do about it (E.g. from getting environments to deployment, etc). Is there more info about this somewhere?

Chris Combe15:01:04

Loved the book, question is: how do you see enterprise architecture fitting into the context of the book. The main character / protagonist became the first distinguished engineer and the only time I observed the architects piece was on the governance side that everyone wanted stamped out. Enterprise and domain architects could add value by playing a role in the product teams and adding value upfront rather than at the end when it's too late. I'd like to see architects adding more value and getting on-board to add value.

Chris Combe15:01:04

Loved the book, question is: how do you see enterprise architecture fitting into the context of the book. The main character / protagonist became the first distinguished engineer and the only time I observed the architects piece was on the governance side that everyone wanted stamped out. Enterprise and domain architects could add value by playing a role in the product teams and adding value upfront rather than at the end when it's too late. I'd like to see architects adding more value and getting on-board to add value.

Scott Worden15:01:32

@chriscombe I had the same question

Chris Combe15:01:17

One more: the book was very positive once the big hurdles were overcome, I worry the challenges of the transformation post initial success were glossed over (room for a third book perhaps 😉). I'd love to see how the transformation was embedded across the wider org in more detail, in large orgs like mine we have so many IT functions which are business aligned compared to a Dev (incl. infra engineering) Vs Ops world which seems quite simple by comparison. What metrics were used for measuring value and weighted lead times etc.